Most Underutilized Submission in Jiu Jitsu

I was listening to an interview with Paul Schreiner, and he mentioned that the north south choke is the most unterutilized submission in jiu jitsu (both gi and no gi), given how low-risk and high percentage it is. Here’s a slow motion video of him pulling it off in an impressively quick and crisp fashion during training:

I’ve heard Marcelo Garcia express a similar appreciation of this choke, and watching him train on MGInAction, he certainly pulls it off on a lot of people.

Like many jiu jitsu people that see this, I invested some half-ass effort into trying this choke during training every once in a while. However, this is one of those techniques that you have to put in a lot of reps into in order to develop a feel for it. A lot of people can get close to the finish position, but actually finishing (on a good guy) is another matter.

Anyway, it’s something to think about. I am going to be hunting for submissions more aggressively this competition season, so a couple of high-percentage options are good to have in the arsenal.

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    Interesting. I’ve been choked in competition exactly once in 14 years. I didn’t choke a lot of people myself either. I don’t know if that means judo players suck at chokes, chokes or generally ineffective or what. I do know that there have been a few people who won a lot of matches with chokes but those judo players are the rare exception.

    1. Dave Liepmann

      Lex, my understanding is that Marcelo sees this as one of the very few truly essential submissions in BJJ.

      Doctor de Mars, I’ve always been under the impression that chokes just take too long to set up, particularly at the elite levels of judo, to make a significant showing in comparison to, say, jujigatame or hold-downs. (Perhaps you have seen Neil Ohlenkamp’s ? Shimewaza plus sankaku barely make the rankings of popular skills. Doesn’t tell us anything about cause, of course, it just provides some evidence to buttress your experience.)

  2. Alan

    I’ve been working on this choke for anywhere from 3-6 months now. I’m not entirely sure when I started working on it, and it continues to be a work in progress. I’ve tried Monson’s methods, as well as Marcelo’s. I’ve been far more successful with Marcelo’s version, but it’s still not competition-ready for me yet. I’m a big fan of it, though.

    1. Lex Post author

      I’m in the same boat. Many submissions work for me right away and I get better at them with time, but this one is taking forever. I have days where the north south choke works on everyone and days when it works on noone. Obviously, I haven’t quite developed a that feeling when you know it’s in perfectly.

  3. Eric M

    Thanks for posting this clip of Paul’s beautiful north-south. I finished with this choke at the 2013 NJBJJF tournament after reading this blog. Respect!


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